SMA President Philip K. Bell today joined a live discussion about tariffs and the steel industry on 1A, a news program produced by WAMU in Washington, D.C.

Phil explained to host Jenn White why SMA supports tariffs on imported steel, including steel that arrives by way of our biggest trading partners: “We think that it’s important to strengthen America’s manufacturing base, Jen, and to protect American jobs as well as our national security, and we still see a consistent flow of subsidized and high emission steel coming into our country from all over the world. And often, it’s being transshipped through countries like Mexico and Canada.”

It airs on about 400 National Public Radio affiliate stations nationwide. The show also runs on Sirius XM channel 122 and is available as podcast from NPR. The show reaches an estimated 4 million listeners.

Listen here. Phil’s segment begins around the 12-minute mark, and a transcript is available on the page. You can also listen to this episode of 1A wherever you get your podcasts.